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PID Controllers with Output High Select Logic

Last updated: August 25, 2019 6:51 pm
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The below figure 1 shows a typical control scheme with two controllers driving the same control valve via high select logic. The controller PIC-1 is the main pressure controller and maintains the vessel pressure of 6 barg by modulation of the control valve.

However, if the suction to the compressors falls below 2 barg for any reason, the suction pressure controller PIC-2 opens up the valve to increase the pressure. So in normal operation, the control valve is controlled by PIC-1 while PIC-2 only takes over if the suction pressure drops too low.

Output High Select Logic

PID Controllers with output high select Logic

Suppose that for the current gas flow rates the control valve is 30% to give the 6 barg vessel pressure. Again suppose that the compressor suction is 3 barg i.e. above the setpoint of PIC-2.

That means that the output of PIC-2 will be decreasing as the controller attempts to close the valve and reduce the pressure. When this output drops below 30%, it has no effect on the valve because the high select logic selects the output of PIC-1 and that controller has full control of the valve.

All well and good, except if the output of PIC-2 carries on dropping all the way to 0%. If for any reason the compressor suction pressure falls away below the setpoint of PIC-2, the control output now has to wind from 0% to 30% before it can start opening the valve to increase the pressure.

By this time, the pressure can easily have decreased even further and possibly have tripped the compressors on low suction pressure.

The above scenario is not at all uncommon and is the cause of many ‘spurious’ trip events. The same argument applies to low select logic except the polarity is reversed: the unselected controller winds up to 100%.

Understandably, the tuning of the controllers is often blamed, but with a little understanding of the problem, it is clear that tuning can not help until the controller has full control of the valve. The main issue is integral wind-up of the controller not currently selected by the high- or low-select logic.

There are several solutions of which the most common are:

  • Clamp the integral of the unselected controller at a value very close (say 2%) to the output of the selected controller. When the unselected controller is needed, it only needs to unwind by 2% rather than all the way from 0% or 100%.
  • When the process variable of the unselected controller approaches the setpoint, ‘bounce’ the output to the same value as the selected controller e.g. by switching the controller momentarily into manual, changing the output and putting it back into automatic again, adjusting the setpoint if necessary.

The first method is straightforward enough to implement on most DCS or PLCs while the second method is suitable when there is no means of applying a limit clamp to the controller integral.

Both techniques have a similar result. In our example above, when the suction pressure drops to the setpoint of PIC-2, the output of the controller is already close to (Method 1) or at (Method 2) the same value as the PIC-1 output, so PIC-2 can immediately take control of the valve which opens up to maintain the pressure.

The controllers should be tuned one at a time by adjusting the setpoints and pressures so that the controller being tuned has full control of the valve: the other controller must be pushed somewhere out of the way and maybe even left in manual.

Otherwise, use normal tuning methods to calculate the controller parameters. Once satisfied with the tuning, thoroughly test the changeover from one controller to the other.

Also Read: Direct Acting vs Reverse Acting Controllers

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    March 31, 2016 at 4:43 am

    why we can not copy info here? here are many words we do not know their meaning ,we need to translate them.

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      April 3, 2016 at 4:08 am

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